So we have another installment of the visual proof that not only does entangled fighting happen with weapons involved, ground grappling also happens.  Much to the chagrin of those who prefer to be lazy or scared of doing any such training.

This video is of a very recent (4-25-22 to be precise) robbery in NYC.

I won’t go into extreme detail because I have made the overarching point over and over again, so I will focus on a few specific details for this incident.

1. Entanglement happens, even when it does not have to. Note that it looks like the victims were cooperating (or at least not resisting) but still two robbers initiated the attachment. In both instances, the robber in the black jacket knocks one victim to the ground, and then takes back control of the other victim, after the weapons have already come out. Both victims ended up on the ground when they obviously did not want to, but that was irrelevant. They did not have the skill set to prevent it, and the bad guys were willing to do it. Those two points get lost when the anti-grappling in the street people start pontificating on something that they have no experience in or understanding of.
2. Note that even on the ground and not resisting, there was physical attachment between victim and robber, even with a weapon in play. The bad guys did not stand off at a distance but rather made contact with both victims to take what they wanted.
3. Look at how close the handgun in the hands of black hoodie robber is to the victim on the ground on the left of the video at about the :12 second mark. This is a classic starting point in an ECQC evolution that every student goes through. What was that about this stuff never happening????
4. My favorite part of this video is the environment. Where does robbery occur? In a closed space? Nope. An open and fairly broad sidewalk. Plenty of room to move, and yet it still becomes an entangled fight. Again, this is overlooked by those who try desperately to argue against these scenarios as anything plausible.